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		<title>By: greglovern</title>
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		<description>Hi smky_mtn_cutie,

There are good choices in all three of those brands. I have lenses of all three and like them all. I do wish Tamron and Sigma didn&#039;t make their zoom rings as stiff as they do, but it isn&#039;t a deal killer.

Before looking for a better lens, though, it might be worth checking whether your current lens and/or camera have an autofocusing problem. I&#039;d suggest printout out this autofocus test chart to see if you are currently getting correct autofocus:

http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/focus-chart


If you are currently getting correct autofocus:

For the most bang for buck, I&#039;d look at the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8. However, there seem to be a high percentage of bad copies of that lens, so you might have to return it for another copy, and you might have to do that more than once:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&amp;shs=pentax+tamron+17-50mm&amp;sb=ps&amp;pn=1&amp;sq=desc&amp;InitialSearch=yes&amp;O=jsp%2Fproductlist.jsp&amp;A=search&amp;Q=*&amp;bhs=t


Another excellent choice would be the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8. But note, it&#039;s really closer to a 19-50mm f/3.0:

(note, don&#039;t confuse this lens with the similar-sounding, but mediocre, Sigma 18-50mm f/3.5-5.6, which would be no better than your kit lens)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463426-REG/Sigma_581109_18_50mm_f_2_8_EX_DC.html


The new Pentax 17-70mm f/4.0 is getting excellent reviews, even better than the older Pentax 16-45mm f/4.0, which is also excellent:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/567353-USA/Pentax_21740_SMCP_DA_17_70mm_f_4_AL.html

The Pentax 17-70 is a bit pricey because it just came out, but the Pentax 16-45 is excellent too and about US$100 cheaper:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/315380-USA/Pentax_21507_SMCP_DA_16_45mm_f_4_0_ED.html


Pentax users are also generally very happy with the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&amp;shs=pentax+sigma+17-70mm&amp;sb=ps&amp;pn=1&amp;sq=desc&amp;InitialSearch=yes&amp;O=jsp%2FRootPage.jsp&amp;A=search&amp;Q=*&amp;bhs=t


The Pentax 16-50mm has excellent image quality and is also fully weather-sealed (as is your K20D). But it&#039;s also expensive, big and heavy, and like the Tamron 17-50, there have been a lot of bad copies, so you might have to return one or two before getting a good one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/485180-USA/Pentax_21650_SMCP_DA_16_50mm_f_2_8_ED.html


Another option I would suggest seriously considering is an excellent prime (non-zoom), which will not only give you sharpness that only the very best zooms can approach, but will also give you much better bokeh (beautiful out-of-focus backgrounds) than even the very best zooms, and will be smaller and ligher than a zoom, and will let in more light than a zoom. I would suggest looking at the Pentax 35mm f/2.0. Although I have lots of zooms to choose from, I use this lens a lot:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html


Here&#039;s a good place for reviews:

http://www.photozone.de/all-tests

Popular Photography magazine is also a good place to look for reviews:

http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses


I also like to look through serious user reviews, and the Fred Miranda site is a good place for Tamron and Sigma lenses:

(whoops, I&#039;m only allowed 10 links in an answer, so here&#039;s a non-link)

dub dub dub dot fredmiranda dot com/reviews/index.php

The Pentax Forums website is a good place for user reviews of Pentax lenses:

(whoops, I&#039;m only allowed 10 links in an answer, so here&#039;s a non-link)

 dub dub dub dot pentaxforums dot com/lensreviews/category-SMC-Pentax-DA-Zoom-Lenses.html


I&#039;ve never had the kit lens, but I&#039;ve had the Pentax 16-45 since it came out in 2004 and have been very happy with it. It&#039;s very good at f/4.0 and razor sharp by f/5.6.

I recently bought the Tamron 17-50/2.8, mainly to throw unavoidably cluttered backgrounds further out of focus (by using f/2.8 rather than f/4.0), but also to get razor sharp performance by about f/4.0 instead of f/5.6, and thirdly to be able to shoot in half as much light (by using f/2.8 instead of f/4.0) while still getting very good sharpness, about as good as the Pentax 16-45 is at f/4.0.

However, my copy of the Tamron 17-50 had a front-focus problem. I decided to send it into Tamron rather than play games with the retailer, and also to ask them if they could loosen the zoom ring while they were fixing it. I was a bit disappointed when they told me, after I rushed the lens to them, that it would take them 3 - 4 weeks to do the repair. I&#039;m still waiting for it. But for the couple days I had it, I was very pleased with it&#039;s handling -- it feels just right in my hand while shooting.


My advice -- 

If you&#039;re not in a hurry and don&#039;t mind returning the lens a couple times to get a good copy, it&#039;s hard to beat the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8&#039;s bang for buck. 

For the best likelihood of getting a good copy the first try, and also to avoid an overl&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just realized my answer was truncated. Maybe they&#039;ll let me finish in this &quot;source&quot; section. 

For the best likelihood of getting a good copy the first try, and also to avoid an overly stiff zoom ring, I&#039;d look at the Pentax 17-70mm f/4.0, or if that is too pricey, the Pentax 16-45mm f/4.0.

If you like the idea of taking it out in the rain with no worries, I&#039;d look at the Pentax 16-50mm f/2.8, if you don&#039;t mind the cost, size, weight, and the possibility of having to return one or two to get a good copy.


Good luck and have fun!

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi smky_mtn_cutie,</p>
<p>There are good choices in all three of those brands. I have lenses of all three and like them all. I do wish Tamron and Sigma didn&#39;t make their zoom rings as stiff as they do, but it isn&#39;t a deal killer.</p>
<p>Before looking for a better lens, though, it might be worth checking whether your current lens and/or camera have an autofocusing problem. I&#39;d suggest printout out this autofocus test chart to see if you are currently getting correct autofocus:</p>
<p><a href="http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/focus-chart" rel="nofollow">http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/focus-chart</a></p>
<p>If you are currently getting correct autofocus:</p>
<p>For the most bang for buck, I&#39;d look at the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8. However, there seem to be a high percentage of bad copies of that lens, so you might have to return it for another copy, and you might have to do that more than once:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&#038;shs=pentax+tamron+17-50mm&#038;sb=ps&#038;pn=1&#038;sq=desc&#038;InitialSearch=yes&#038;O=jsp%2Fproductlist.jsp&#038;A=search&#038;Q=" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&#038;shs=pentax+tamron+17-50mm&#038;sb=ps&#038;pn=1&#038;sq=desc&#038;InitialSearch=yes&#038;O=jsp%2Fproductlist.jsp&#038;A=search&#038;Q=</a>*&#038;bhs=t</p>
<p>Another excellent choice would be the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8. But note, it&#39;s really closer to a 19-50mm f/3.0:</p>
<p>(note, don&#39;t confuse this lens with the similar-sounding, but mediocre, Sigma 18-50mm f/3.5-5.6, which would be no better than your kit lens)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463426-REG/Sigma_581109_18_50mm_f_2_8_EX_DC.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463426-REG/Sigma_581109_18_50mm_f_2_8_EX_DC.html</a></p>
<p>The new <a href="http://www.pentaxk20ddigitalslr.com/amazon" style="color:#0033FF;text-decoration:underline;" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Pentax K20D Digital SLR Amazon.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Pentax</a> 17-70mm f/4.0 is getting excellent reviews, even better than the older Pentax 16-45mm f/4.0, which is also excellent:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/567353-USA/Pentax_21740_SMCP_DA_17_70mm_f_4_AL.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/567353-USA/Pentax_21740_SMCP_DA_17_70mm_f_4_AL.html</a></p>
<p>The Pentax 17-70 is a bit pricey because it just came out, but the Pentax 16-45 is excellent too and about US$100 cheaper:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/315380-USA/Pentax_21507_SMCP_DA_16_45mm_f_4_0_ED.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/315380-USA/Pentax_21507_SMCP_DA_16_45mm_f_4_0_ED.html</a></p>
<p>Pentax users are also generally very happy with the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&#038;shs=pentax+sigma+17-70mm&#038;sb=ps&#038;pn=1&#038;sq=desc&#038;InitialSearch=yes&#038;O=jsp%2FRootPage.jsp&#038;A=search&#038;Q=" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&#038;shs=pentax+sigma+17-70mm&#038;sb=ps&#038;pn=1&#038;sq=desc&#038;InitialSearch=yes&#038;O=jsp%2FRootPage.jsp&#038;A=search&#038;Q=</a>*&#038;bhs=t</p>
<p>The Pentax 16-50mm has excellent image quality and is also fully weather-sealed (as is your <a href="http://www.pentaxk20ddigitalslr.com/amazon" style="color:#0033FF;text-decoration:underline;" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Pentax K20D Digital SLR Amazon.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">K20D</a>). But it&#39;s also expensive, big and heavy, and like the Tamron 17-50, there have been a lot of bad copies, so you might have to return one or two before getting a good one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/485180-USA/Pentax_21650_SMCP_DA_16_50mm_f_2_8_ED.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/485180-USA/Pentax_21650_SMCP_DA_16_50mm_f_2_8_ED.html</a></p>
<p>Another option I would suggest seriously considering is an excellent prime (non-zoom), which will not only give you sharpness that only the very best zooms can approach, but will also give you much better bokeh (beautiful out-of-focus backgrounds) than even the very best zooms, and will be smaller and ligher than a zoom, and will let in more light than a zoom. I would suggest looking at the Pentax 35mm f/2.0. Although I have lots of zooms to choose from, I use this lens a lot:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/180121-USA/Pentax_22190_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_2_0.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#39;s a good place for reviews:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.photozone.de/all-tests" rel="nofollow">http://www.photozone.de/all-tests</a></p>
<p>Popular Photography magazine is also a good place to look for reviews:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses" rel="nofollow">http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses</a></p>
<p>I also like to look through serious user reviews, and the Fred Miranda site is a good place for Tamron and Sigma lenses:</p>
<p>(whoops, I&#39;m only allowed 10 links in an answer, so here&#39;s a non-link)</p>
<p>dub dub dub dot fredmiranda dot com/reviews/index.php</p>
<p>The Pentax Forums website is a good place for user reviews of Pentax lenses:</p>
<p>(whoops, I&#39;m only allowed 10 links in an answer, so here&#39;s a non-link)</p>
<p> dub dub dub dot pentaxforums dot com/lensreviews/category-SMC-Pentax-DA-Zoom-Lenses.html</p>
<p>I&#39;ve never had the kit lens, but I&#39;ve had the Pentax 16-45 since it came out in 2004 and have been very happy with it. It&#39;s very good at f/4.0 and razor sharp by f/5.6.</p>
<p>I recently bought the Tamron 17-50/2.8, mainly to throw unavoidably cluttered backgrounds further out of focus (by using f/2.8 rather than f/4.0), but also to get razor sharp performance by about f/4.0 instead of f/5.6, and thirdly to be able to shoot in half as much light (by using f/2.8 instead of f/4.0) while still getting very good sharpness, about as good as the Pentax 16-45 is at f/4.0.</p>
<p>However, my copy of the Tamron 17-50 had a front-focus problem. I decided to send it into Tamron rather than play games with the retailer, and also to ask them if they could loosen the zoom ring while they were fixing it. I was a bit disappointed when they told me, after I rushed the lens to them, that it would take them 3 &#8211; 4 weeks to do the repair. I&#39;m still waiting for it. But for the couple days I had it, I was very pleased with it&#39;s handling &#8212; it feels just right in my hand while shooting.</p>
<p>My advice &#8212; </p>
<p>If you&#39;re not in a hurry and don&#39;t mind returning the lens a couple times to get a good copy, it&#39;s hard to beat the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8&#39;s bang for buck. </p>
<p>For the best likelihood of getting a good copy the first try, and also to avoid an overl<br /><b>References : </b><br />I just realized my answer was truncated. Maybe they&#39;ll let me finish in this &quot;source&quot; section. </p>
<p>For the best likelihood of getting a good copy the first try, and also to avoid an overly stiff zoom ring, I&#39;d look at the Pentax 17-70mm f/4.0, or if that is too pricey, the Pentax 16-45mm f/4.0.</p>
<p>If you like the idea of taking it out in the rain with no worries, I&#39;d look at the Pentax 16-50mm f/2.8, if you don&#39;t mind the cost, size, weight, and the possibility of having to return one or two to get a good copy.</p>
<p>Good luck and have fun!</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used Sigma lenses and they&#039;re nice. But I&#039;ve also seen some amazing Tamron lenses. My best advice would be to pick out some lenses from each and see what reviews have said. I don&#039;t mean small reviews from people who just bought it, but big thorough ones. dpreview.com is a very good site to find great reviews.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;dpreview.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve used Sigma lenses and they&#39;re nice. But I&#39;ve also seen some amazing Tamron lenses. My best advice would be to pick out some lenses from each and see what reviews have said. I don&#39;t mean small reviews from people who just bought it, but big thorough ones. dpreview.com is a very good site to find great reviews.<br /><b>References : </b><br />dpreview.com</p>
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